!standard A(3/4) 16-11-23 AI12-0200-1/03 !standard 13.11.4(21/3) !standard 13.11.4(31/3) !class binding interpretation 16-08-11 !status Amendment 1-2012 16-11-09 !status ARG Approved 9-0-1 16-10-08 !status work item 16-08-11 !status received 16-06-12 !priority Low !difficulty Easy !qualifier Clarification !subject Improve reentrancy requirements for language-defined subprograms !summary Clarify that the reentrancy requirements for language-defined subprograms apply to any two language-defined subprograms with overlapping parameters. !question The wording in A(3/4) doesn't clearly state two (obvious?) requirements: 1) The requirement applies to calls to any pair of such subprograms, not just to two calls to the same subprogram. 2) The requirement applies in the case where the overlapping occurs between parameters of two different calls, not between two parameters of one call. Should this be clarified? (Yes.) !recommendation (See Summary.) !wording Replace A(3/4) by: The implementation shall ensure that each language-defined subprogram is reentrant in the sense that concurrent calls on any two (possibly the same) language-defined subprograms perform as specified, so long as all pairs of objects (one from each call) that are either denoted by parameters that could be passed by reference, or are designated by parameters of an access type, are nonoverlapping. !discussion Point (1) was in fact one of the purposes of AI12-0052-1, changing the wording to "any language-defined subprogram" rather than "the same subprogram". !corrigendum A(3/4) @drepl The implementation shall ensure that each language-defined subprogram is reentrant in the sense that concurrent calls on any language-defined subprogram perform as specified, so long as all objects that are denoted by parameters that could be passed by reference or designated by parameters of an access type are nonoverlapping. @dby The implementation shall ensure that each language-defined subprogram is reentrant in the sense that concurrent calls on any two (possibly the same) language-defined subprograms perform as specified, so long as all pairs of objects (one from each call) that are either denoted by parameters that could be passed by reference, or are designated by parameters of an access type, are nonoverlapping. !ASIS No ASIS effect. !ACATS test The absence of race conditions isn't directly testable; tests can depend on this property which may indirectly test for correct implementation. !appendix From: Randy Brukardt Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 6:05 PM In his review of the minutes (aside: should be posted soon), Jeff notes that the AI12-0200-1 "doesn't flow". The approved wording is: The implementation shall ensure that each language-defined subprogram is reentrant in the sense that concurrent calls on any two (possibly the same) language-defined subprograms perform as specified, so long as all pairs of objects (one from each call) that {either} are denoted by parameters that could be passed by reference{,} or designated by parameters of an access type are nonoverlapping. --- The problem here is that the "are nonoverlapping" applies to both kinds of parameters; the inserted comma tends to make it read as if that only applies to the second part. Jeff suggested adding an "are" and another comma, thus: The implementation shall ensure that each language-defined subprogram is reentrant in the sense that concurrent calls on any two (possibly the same) language-defined subprograms perform as specified, so long as all pairs of objects (one from each call) that {either} are denoted by parameters that could be passed by reference{,} or {are} designated by parameters of an access type{,} are nonoverlapping. But I don't think that helps; now "are nonoverlapping" is completely hanging in space. The usual fix for such dangling items is to pull them to the front part: The implementation shall ensure that each language-defined subprogram is reentrant in the sense that concurrent calls on any two (possibly the same) language-defined subprograms perform as specified, so long as all pairs of objects (one from each call) {are nonoverlapping} that {either} are denoted by parameters that could be passed by reference{,} or {are} designated by parameters of an access type[ are nonoverlapping]. The "that" doesn't make much sense here, perhaps "if" would be better: The implementation shall ensure that each language-defined subprogram is reentrant in the sense that concurrent calls on any two (possibly the same) language-defined subprograms perform as specified, so long as all pairs of objects (one from each call) {are nonoverlapping if either} [that] are denoted by parameters that could be passed by reference{,} or {are} designated by parameters of an access type[ are nonoverlapping]. But this doesn't seem to have the right meaning (it seems to say that it applies if either parameter meets these requirements, the rule applies, while we want it to apply only if both parameters meet the requirements. I'm out of ideas at this point. Any better suggestions??? **************************************************************** From: Jeff Cousins Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 4:32 AM > The implementation shall ensure that each language-defined subprogram is reentrant in the sense that concurrent calls on any two (possibly the same) language-defined subprograms perform as specified, so long as all pairs of objects (one from each call) {are nonoverlapping if either} [that] are denoted by parameters that could be passed by reference{,} or {are} designated by parameters of an access type[ are nonoverlapping]. > But this doesn't seem to have the right meaning (it seems to say that it applies if either parameter meets these requirements, the rule applies, while we want it to apply only if both parameters meet the requirements. > I'm out of ideas at this point. Any better suggestions??? It's getting rather long for a single sentence, but here's another attempt: The implementation shall ensure that each language-defined subprogram is reentrant in the sense that concurrent calls on any two (possibly the same) language-defined subprograms perform as specified, so long as all pairs of objects (one from each call) {are nonoverlapping if both objects of such a pair are either} [that are] denoted by {a }parameter[s] that could be passed by reference or designated by {a }parameter[s] of an access type[ are nonoverlapping]. **************************************************************** From: John Barnes Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 5:42 AM I don't think that putting "are overlapping" earlier helps at all. I think that Jeff's suggestion is not bad. However, I suggest reversing "either" and "are" so we end up with: The implementation shall ensure that each language-defined subprogram is reentrant in the sense that concurrent calls on any two (possibly the same) language-defined subprograms perform as specified, so long as all pairs of objects (one from each call) that are either denoted by parameters that could be passed by reference, or are designated by parameters of an access type, are nonoverlapping. I find it helps to remove square and curly brackets so that the result is clearer and then when satisified to put them back for the record. **************************************************************** From: Tullio Vardanega Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:17 AM I like this version, both for formulation and absense of brackets. **************************************************************** From: Tucker Taft Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 3:06 PM Johns version works for me. Next approach would probably be bullets, but John's seems good enough without them. **************************************************************** From: Randy Brukardt Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 8:20 PM I prefer Jeff's (Wednesday) suggestion to Jeff's (Monday) suggestion as modified by John. But it appears that I'm outnumbered, so I'll shut up (at least until we have someone who can't understand it - that may be a while, since Adam isn't around anymore). ****************************************************************