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--- acs/ac-00097.txt	2004/04/30 02:35:36	1.2
+++ acs/ac-00097.txt	2005/01/07 03:07:21	1.3
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+From: Michael Erdmann
+Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004  10:53 AM
+
+Has there been any progress on this issue?
+
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+
+From: Randy Brukardt
+Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004   5:18 PM
+
+No. It was considered way out of scope for the Ada Standard.
+
+The way to make progress on this is to organize a workshop (which doesn't
+necessarily have to be a single meeting) with the intent of using the IWA
+process to create a quasi standard. The IWA then can be later adopted as a
+formal secondary standard or even part of the Ada Standard.
+
+The important thing is to get a group together to create something - and
+someone has to take the lead to do that. (That's how ASIS came to be, and it
+didn't have the light-weight IWA process to use to provide quick results.) The
+ARG doesn't have the manpower, expertise, or energy to take on every deserving
+project.
+
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+
+From: Michael Erdmann
+Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004  11:30 AM
+
+> No. It was considered way out of scope for the Ada Standard.
+>
+I agree on this. Application development should drive this
+process.
+
+> The way to make progress on this is to organize a workshop (which doesn't
+> necessarily have to be a single meeting) with the intent of using the IWA
+> process to create a quasi standard. The IWA then can be later adopted as a
+> formal secondary standard or even part of the Ada Standard.
+
+I think this will be a big problem. From my personal experience
+i have the impression, that Ada is used in a domain where object
+persistency, database interfaces are not in the main focus of
+development. As a consequence there is not to mutch common understanding
+what a database interface should do.
+
+> The important thing is to get a group together to create something - and
+> someone has to take the lead to do that. (That's how ASIS came to be, and it
+> didn't have the light-weight IWA process to use to provide quick results.)
+> The ARG doesn't have the manpower, expertise, or energy to take on every
+> deserving project.
+
+Thanks for the information. I am just want to find out it makes sense to
+position within such a process. The project is currently not to active
+but at least the people in the mailing list are known to do database
+related development.
+
+May be some people willing to copy e.g. from JDO (
+http://www.jdocentral.com/)
+
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+

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